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[00:00:00] Speaker A: That's one of the things that definitely, when you come to CEOs and entrepreneurs, is that one of the biggest challenges that we have is that we don't want to name it.
We don't want to be, we don't want to be vulnerable to an emotion or a feeling. And one of the things I teach my client is that an emotional, a feeling is just an emotion that wants to communicate with us and lead.
So if I'm going up against something new and I'm feeling, listen to my, the way I'm saying it, I'm feeling sadness or I'm feeling fear. I'm not fearful. I'm feeling the feelings or the emotions of fear. So if I can ever just stop and allow myself to have that feeling, be in the moment, be present with it, and allow it to communicate with me and allow it to tell me what exactly what I need, and then that's when you can truly move forward.
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[00:00:57] Speaker B: Hey everybody, and welcome back to another edition of Trust this Today we're going to have a master series series podcast with Curtis McCullum.
Curtis helps CEOs, founders and entrepreneurs eliminate the blind spots that have silently held them back since childhood, unlocking greater income, confidence and personal freedom through his LGET mindset framework. Learn, Grow, Expand and Transform and modalities like nlp, Mental Emotional Release and hypnotherapy. Curtis helps clients reprogram subconscious blocks for deep, lasting transformation. As the host of the Curtis McCollum show, he shares his insights from top leaders on success, mindset and personal growth. His belief is your next level is already within you and Curtis helps you unlock it. His website is bespoke human potential coaching dot com. His Instagram is @curtis McCollum. That's with two C's and two L's and O M. And his podcast, of course, is the Curtis McCollum Show. We'll put links down below for all this.
And today I just want to, I want to talk with Curtis, sort of pick his brain about what he does, how he does it, and what some of these things mean up here. We talked about the LG ET mindset, Mental Emotional Release, hypnotherapy. We want to get into that.
So Curtis, why don't you tell us a little bit about what you do first and then we'll get into some more questions after that.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: First of all, thank you, Joe, for having me on your show. I think it's going to be a great, we're going to have a great time today. What I do, I know we Were talking a little bit and kind of joking about it, about coaching and how many different types of coaches are out there. And I'm like, the only reason I use, I say the word coaching is because that's what people kind of associate with it. I think what I do is a little bit more, is more expensive than that because most coaches work from the outside in meaning cognitively. They ask you what your goals and what your dreams and all this stuff are. And what I do is I go in and says, okay, what is it that's actually blocking you from becoming the best version of yourself? So I wanted to find out what are the root causes that we need to pull up. We need to kind of, you know, kind of till the soil to make sure that we have a strong foundation. Then we layer on, on top of that, goal setting and vision and those types of things. So one of the things that I do is help individuals get rid of those blind spots, those areas in their life that's actually stopping them from becoming who they really want to become.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: So how did you get into this? How did you discover this is what you wanted to do and this is where you fit best?
[00:03:36] Speaker A: Well, that's a great question. I started this about 35 plus years ago when I went into sales. I. When I went into sales 35, 40 years ago, I wanted to become a motivational speaker, a sales trainer. That's what they were called back then. You know, like to Tom Hopkins, the Jim Zig Ziglars, the Jim Rohns and the Tony Robbins had just started his, his movement. And so I studied all of these guys, you know, I listened to the tapes, I listened to the recordings, and that's what I wanted to become. So I wanted, I, I started in sales and became number one in the company. It was then less than a year and a half using hypnotherapy and using kind of mindset and meditation type techniques. So long story short, it didn't happen. Then it, like I tell people it was like if you have the biblical story of the children of Israel kind of wandered in the wilderness for like 40 years, that's kind of like my story. I don't suggest people do it that way, Joe, but basically it took me about 35 years to get to where I am now, to where I got in a position where I could retire in financial services.
And then I started the coaching with hypnotherapy, neuro linguistic programming, and also mental and emotional release.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: See now that's the thing. A lot of coaches I agree with You. I think a lot of coaches just look at the outside and they're like, you know, I'm here to help you with your goals and things. But it sounds like you go deeper than that. You really get into the. The brain, the neuroscience of it with hypnotherapy and everything. How did you get into hypnotherapy? Where did that come from?
[00:05:15] Speaker A: That came from when I was going for number one.
There was a guy used to study. His name was. I can't think of his name just flips me right now. But I studied his recordings and I used to do a sleep programming. It was called Ultra Monetary Success and I used did the sleep programming.
One of my friends introduced me to hypnotherapy and so I just loved it. I love the fact of meditation and kind of getting to the mind. And what hypnotherapy is, is, number one, is a natural state of mind that we all go through this feeling of trance about every 90 minutes, every day. So what I do is I help individuals go entranced on purpose, with purpose, so that they can now tap into that layer of thinking, bypassing the critical mind so that they can actually. It's like a flow state. So I got into hypnotherapy way back then. But then when I started coaching six years ago, I got a certification as an executive coach and I started doing executive coach. And I'm like, oh, this is not. This is not me. You know, I'm like, no, this is not what I want to do. So I went back and got a certification as a clinical hypnotherapist, also a master practitioner in neuro linguistic programming and also mental and emotional release. So it kind of came together. So now I combine all of those modalities, including coaching, into this infrastructure where I call the legit mindset, which is learning, growing, expanding and transforming.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: So tell us about those different stages. What is the learning, growing, expanding and transforming?
What are they?
[00:06:53] Speaker A: Basically, what they are is that the learning part of it is actually really going beneath the surface. Understanding your subconscious mind. This is the thing that most people don't understand, Joe, is this is that only 5% of our mind power is conscious. That's our analytical, our willpower, the things that we set goals with. You know, all of those things are what we call is on the conscious level.
Well, 95% of most of your brain power is on the subconscious level. So first of all, I want to educate individuals on that concept and then we help them uncover what is it that's actually in the 95% that's stopping them for getting what they want to get once they set the goals they set for the 5%.
So the learning is actually uncovering these and releasing these blind spots, these patterns, these beliefs, these. That's kind of running the show that most people have no idea that, that these things are actually running.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: Interesting. So what's the, what does the growing do? Once they've learned they can grow.
[00:08:01] Speaker A: Basically once the growing is basically now letting go of that what no longer serves us, that's when we actually we learn through the, with hypnotherapy and with mental and emotional release, we release all of this baggage, what I call baggage.
Limiting beliefs, limiting thoughts, negative emotions, anger, guilt, sadness, all of these things. We release what I call in a one day mindset reset and now we can grow because now we have not taken care of all the things that are no, that no longer serves you. We release those old emotions and now you can actually have the right foundation in the soil to grow and then kind of leads you to the expansion which is now we can set those goals. Now you see the order that I set it in is that most coaches start with goal setting. What, what, what stops an individual is the fact that if I set a goal and I have a limiting belief that I'm not good enough at some point in this, on my path, on this journey of, of getting my goal, I'm going to hit a wall again because I did not release that would that that does not serve me. So that's where the expansion comes in. At we making, we're aligning our choices. We actually now take an inspired action. We taking actions based on the new beliefs and the behaviors that we have.
[00:09:23] Speaker B: And it transforms your life beyond that.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: Absolutely transforms your life. Now in transformation what we do. Part of my practice is, is that I create what we call a bespoke daily mental supplement. Just like a think about a vitamin supplement where we need to take to make sure that our bodies get the, the, the, the nutrients and the things that maybe food does not give us. So what I create for my clients is bespoke daily mental supplements. These are customized recordings based on the new behaviors and the new beliefs that they want to incorporate in their lives. So they listen to it about five minutes a day or so and they change based on the length of coaching that we do with each other. We might upgrade them, change them a little bit. But for the most part the original recording where we've released all the baggage and they got all the new learnings that they need to get that recording is kind of really germane to the new conditioning. And that's what most people don't understand. Change happens quickly, what we do, but in order for it to be permanent, you still need to condition the change. Think about like dental hygiene. You need mental hygiene where you continue to refresh and to kind of continue to kind of grow with that. That's the transformation part.
[00:10:45] Speaker B: Do you find that anybody gets 10 tends to get stuck in any one of those stages at any point?
[00:10:54] Speaker A: Well, I guess over time, a person can, but they don't usually, because when I'm working with them, one of the things that we do is because we are going from the root cause versus the leaves. You know, think about a tree. We got a tree, and a tree basically has all these leaves, all these issues, all these things. Well, we now get to the root and plant the right nutrients in the roots. That means that we're going to have a better tree. Does that mean that. That a person would never experience things like that? No, what it means is that now they have better resources in order to handle situations so that they can kind of move through life better and faster and quicker and easier than before. So they always moving. That's where. That's where the legit mindset or the learning, growing, expanding, transforming think happens is like this, Joe, is every time we reach a new plateau, we have a feeling or emotion that says, oh, I'm scared, I'm frightened. Because growth always kind of stops us. But what happens is that that's the whole ideal of the process of learning, growing, expanding and transforming. It continues to move forward. As you grow, you continue to use the same process of learning, growing, expanding and transforming. Because I. I'm something new that I'm coming up against.
I need to. What can I learn from this? How can I grow from this? How can I expand and how can I transform again? And I continue to continue that process.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: That's sort of like a lesson I learned long ago. It's called name it to tame it. And part of it is figure out what it is and name it. But most people, we don't have that, those internal tools built into us to go, oh, I can tell. I'm scared of this because.
And so now I've named it and I can tame it and I can just move forward. And it's so much easier said than done.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: Oh, oh, absolutely, Absolutely. And that's one of the things that definitely, when you come to CEOs and entrepreneurs, is that one of the biggest challenges that we have is that we don't want to name it.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: Right?
[00:12:59] Speaker A: We don't want to be. We don't want to be vulnerable to an emotion or a feeling.
And one of the things I teach my client is that an emotion or feeling is just an emotion that wants to communicate with us and leave.
So if I'm going up against something new and I'm feeling. Listen to my. The way I'm saying it, I'm feeling sadness or I'm feeling fear. I'm not fearful. I'm feeling the feelings or the emotions of fear. So if I can ever just stop and allow myself to have that feeling, be in the moment, be present with it, and allow it to communicate with me, and allow it to tell me what exactly what I need, and then that's when you can truly move forward. And in the growth process, most of us, we come up against something, and what we do, we push it down. We're like, okay, okay. And when it keeps coming back, hey, I'm here, you know, I'm feeling this feeling when you keep pushing me away.
And it keeps coming back. And sometimes it comes back in the body, it comes back. The way we feel, our back, our neck, all this stuff start to ache because of the fact that we are not allowing that emotion to actually communicate with us.
[00:14:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I've done that with the. With back pain before that my back's hurting. It's like, okay, what. What stress am I carrying with me and why? And it's. You don't have to solve it right then, but you at least have to name it and go, okay, this is what's going on. This is why my back. And it's amazing because after you identify it, at least you're like, your back just stops hurting.
It's crazy.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: I love it. Because that's what happens with the mind. So on. On a mind level, what happens is thinking about with the subconscious mind. Once it get what it needs to learn from it, it normally releases the energy around whatever's happening.
Case in point, like you're back in. In the language that you were using. What am I carrying think of. And a lot of people said, man, this. This is heavy. This is really big, difficult. You know, this is heavy for me. And they feel like they're carrying weights, right? And so if they communicating that them with themselves and allow themselves to actually get the. And it might not come right away.
You know, sometimes it does, and sometimes it may be a day or two, but it will give you an answer. But the key to it and what I try to teach my clients is this, Joe, is once you get an answer, especially if something that has inspired you to do something, do it.
You know, it's like. It's like sometimes you get these. You get this feeling, oh, my God, if I make this call and then it says, make the call or call this person or do this thing, that's the one thing you should be doing. You should actually do it quickly. You know, I think that's so important too. Taking.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the first thing I.
That's the first thing I go to now when my lower back starts hurting, the first thing I go to is, okay, stop, stop. What are you worried about right now? What is. What is in the back of your mind that is worrying you so much? And a lot of times I'll just sort of search around thinking it's like, oh, yeah, I've got this client. I haven't been able to get to their project yet. And I feel really bad about that. And really, just as soon as I just identify that my back feels great, you know, it's like, okay, that pain went away.
I may not done anything about it yet, but at least I identified it.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:16:22] Speaker B: Well, I was just gonna say, what are some other examples of things that you've seen people uncover about themselves that. That were holding them back? What are some examples of that?
[00:16:33] Speaker A: Well, one, I like to always use myself as an example. Sometimes even lately, as three months ago, I would say three months ago, like I told you before, before we got on the air, I'm from Mississippi, so time does not have a factor here. I might say it was yesterday, and it was not. It might have been a year ago. But what it was was that I had this feeling. Well, what. What was. What was happening, Joe, was this. I was helping a lot of clients, getting a lot of breakthroughs. I mean, like. I mean, some things was happening quick, fast, and they were, like, turning their lives around and. But still with myself, there was something not really moving, like I wanted to move.
And so I stopped and asked myself the question, just like you said, you know, what is it not why? Guys never ask yourself why Questions. Because your subconscious mind would take you to a place where you don't want to go and it tell you all the reasons why you are doing what you're doing. And it might not be. Might not be pretty, but I asked myself, what was it? And the answer came back to me, is that success is hard and difficult. Like, wow, when did this start?
And so I call a friend of Mine, I call him. His name is Coach Kev. And Coach Kev, I says, hey, man, do a mental and emotional release session with me on the thoughts that success is hard and difficult.
Uh, and I knew that it was a challenge because every time I would reach a plateau, I would kind of sabotage a little bit because I felt that success is hard and difficult. Well, long story short is when we did the session, when I asked my subconscious mind on a light hypnosis, when. When did this first happen?
And what came up was, I was two years old.
Great. Didn't know what happened at two. But then what we do in the mental emotional release, we allow a person to now to go and allow their subconscious to find that emotion, to look at it, to get learnings from it. And what I learned from it, when I looked down on it, that I was strong, I was persistent, and I'm courageous. That's my learning. And I came back to now giving all the instances that. That learning. Well, I was curious, so I called my mom. I says, mom, what was happening in my life at around age 2?
You know, she's like. I said, country woman for me. Well, baby, what happened was I was. You were. I was. I was pregnant with your sister, and you were around 18 months.
And around 18 months, I was trying to potty train you because I didn't want two babies in diapers at the same time.
I said, oh, okay. She says, this is what she said. And it was hard and difficult for you to be potty trained. The same language that I was using now at age 60 was the same language that I accepted and decided when around age 2, that that's where the. That's where the baggage lies. That's why I said sometimes in the opening, you said, well, some of the things that are happening in our lives, it might be so deep in the subconscious that we don't know it consciously.
And what we do as a coach, what I do as a coach, I help you reveal or uncover what that was so you can release it around it. And as soon as I released it, then I was able to freely do the things I wanted to do. I was more. I mean, I was just, like, more productive. And things just start to happen as things start to open up. That's how it kind of works.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: You use the term self sabotage, and I hear that a lot. Do you ever find some people who just maybe they don't feel like they deserve or they shouldn't succeed? You know, sort of like, hey, I'm doing so well, I shouldn't Be doing this? Well, maybe imposter syndrome. And how, how do they get past that?
[00:20:26] Speaker A: Basically, once again, think about. We talked about a little bit about the subconscious mind, where in the subconscious mind, the 95% are known associations, their beliefs, their values. There are things that all the things that we have experienced in the past are there.
So you talk about and so all the attitudes. So somewhere in your belief system, you accepted or decided that you are not good enough, you're not worthy, or you're not, you know, I'm an imposter. When did that happen? I don't know until I ask you what it is. But usually there is a root cause of that, and that's a feeling or an emotion that has been carried with us sometimes as late as between 0 and 7. That's when we formulate a lot of our beliefs. Now, a limited belief like I'm not good enough could easily come when you were 17 or 18 or 12 and you had your first girlfriend and she, like, she quit you, and all of a sudden she's like, you know, you're not worth anything, right? You're like, oh, I'm not good enough for you. Yeah. And so you accepted and decided that behavior or belief. So, yeah, we have to just figure out when was the root cause of that, that belief. And then we release the energy around it and get a new learning from it.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: And the hypnosis helps you to do that?
[00:21:52] Speaker A: Yes, basically, hypnosis and mental and emotional release is a form of. It's a hypnotic, what I call a hypnotic modality.
And the hypnotic modality is basically allowing someone to. Is like a hypnosis, but not truly like a hypnosis. I might.
My mind says, okay, Joe, close your eyes. Take some deep breathing. Now I'm telling you to go into a trance. But.
And mental and emotional release, we don't do what we call an induction for that, but yes.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: Okay. Okay.
How can entrepreneurs recognize when they're. They're facing a business problem versus a mindset problem?
[00:22:32] Speaker A: I think it's probably sometimes one and the same.
You're talking about a, a mindset problem or business problem or it's really how you actually interpret it. Right. So I feel a mindset or a block. I call them a block. If we have a block. A block is a block. I mean, a blind spot is a blind spot, and all of us have blind spots. The question is, is that. Is that blind spot or block or mindset preventing you from getting what you want? See, because like, some things, like right now my hair is Graying. Okay. Is that going to stop me from being the best version of myself? No, it's just a part of life and I can handle it. But if I say, oh, my God, my hair is great, I need to do something about it because it's stopping me from actually being the best version of myself, then I need to maybe color it and do something different with it. So as long as you can get. As long as you moving forward and it's not a problem. It's not a problem, you know, but if it's a problem, when. Now I want to break a hundred thousand dollars, right? I'm, I'm. I've been like, right at 85, 90, and I can't break through. And I really, I truly desire. I want it really, really bad, but I can't break through now. I have a desire for it, but something is actually blocking me or preventing me in business or. So it could be a business mindset. It could be. Like I said, it could be one in the same.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: Do you ever have people who say, well, this is just the way I am and there's no changing it because it is me. I mean, I've heard people say this when they have, you know, true problems and, and drugs are recommended. You know, prescription drugs are recommended to help them do that. And they're like, well, why would I do that? That's not me. Do you ever have anybody who says, well, this is who I am. I just need to learn how to, to work through me as I am. There is no changing me.
[00:24:28] Speaker A: Well, basically, I think one of the things. If you think you are, you are, whoever, if you, you accept that as a belief, that's your belief.
I mean, the difference in a person accepting. And so, like, I hate to put labels on individuals. I mean, it's like, because that's what people do. They put a label and then they, they become the label.
Like, I'm, I'm sad. Well, I'm not sad. I'm feeling sad, you know, or whatever it is. So if a person decides that's who they are until they decide something different, I can't, I mean, it's not. I can't wave a magic wand over you and says, hey, you're going to be different regardless of what you want. No, this is a, this is, this is, this is a sport that we both have to do to kind of participate in. I'm just the facilitator of your resources that are within you. I believe that everyone has all the resources within themselves to become the best version of themselves. So when a person comes to me, I don't see them as being broken. I don't see them as being bad. I just see them as, they have not been able to tap into the resources that they truly need.
So if a person says, I don't have it, I can't convince you that you do. You got to say, hey, look, this is where I am now on my journey. I want to become better. And then we can definitely do something about that.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I hear a lot of people hit their, their plateaus all the time. It's, it's.
And a lot of people also, you know, a lot of entrepreneurs especially, they feel like they got there by luck. They don't, you know, not, not through their hard work or through their thinking. And they really just don't. They, they fit, they, we call it. They're stuck. They're stuck. They just don't know how to get past that.
So, so it sounds like what you do is very good for people who feel stuck where they are.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. And that, you know, basically, it's like a stuck feeling is a feeling. It's a blind spot. It's like, oh, I can't move.
I want to move, but I feel like I've reached my plateau. But I still feel like I have so much more to offer. But I, I just don't know what to do to actually move forward.
That's the person who comes to me and says, hey, I've tried everything. I've done this and I've done that and I've done this and I, I don't know what to do. And I'm like, hey, that's where to get it done.
You know, you make sure when they come to me in that, in the one day, what I call a one day mindset reset, where we actually take a three, a three hour session that we go through before we start anything else. We go through the three hour session that we get rid of all the things that they came in with, we make sure that they're released that day, kind of do a reset and then now we are ready to actually coach it.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Wow.
So, yeah, so tell me about that. How does your, your process work with someone? Is it usually. Are you working with folks who are in their, usually in their 50s, their 40s, 30s, where, where in their career or where in their entrepreneurial journey are they and what does that process look like when they come to work with you?
[00:27:34] Speaker A: Well, my clientele is buried.
I'm working with 50 year olds, sometimes early 60s, and then as early as 35, 30, I would say it's really and truly, because I was talking to a friend of my daughter the other day, and she's in her 30s, and she has a block. So it's not like, you know, it's like a lot of I can work with kids. I choose not to, but.
But I can, you know, so it doesn't really matter what. Who it is. So it's just as long as you now can't you realize that you definitely have a challenge. But the whole idea, the process is what we talked about, going back to the legit mindset. The process is, number one, finding out what is the greater problem. When a person comes to me and they come with me, they.
They have this baggage of usually I'm not good enough, I'm not worthy, I'm not capable, I'm not lovable.
Money blocks. I can't make the money that I want to make. All of these are what I call issues, right? Think about a tree. So when they come to Ming, they have all of these different leaves on the tree that needs to be pruned.
But what we try to do first is look at the root of the problem. If we want to call a greater problem, what is it that's driving all of this behavior? And usually it's one of the bigger ones.
Usually a person end up in their language and through the cognitive part of the breakthrough will come up, or they'll come up with, wow, that's it.
I not feel like I'm not worthy to be whatever. And so that's what we call a greater problem. So now we know what is the root cause, what is the greater problem? So if we get rid of that problem, then we know that everything else is going to kind of fall apart. So that's where we start. And then once we go through that, we do what I call mental and emotional release. And basically that session, we. We get the problem. We just say we always start with anger. Everybody's usually in all the sessions, people feel anger for something, something that happened in their life. And so we always start to get rid of all the anger around an emotion. So we go with anger, sadness, guilt, shame. And then we then go to the limiting, limiting beliefs. And the question I ask the client is, you know, first of all, I give. Ask permission again. Is it okay for you to release this feeling or emotion and.
And be aware of it today consciously, yes or no? And then the second question, what is the root cause of this problem? What is the first event which. That if we can release the energy around the first event, then it would be released permanently. If you were to know, was it before, during, or after birth. And so now we're getting a time where they happen.
The problem actually came up, I, I said two, three things. Before, during, or after birth.
Now this is kind of where it gets interesting for some and not for all, because sometimes it's genealogical, meaning baggage from my dad, my granddad, my great granddad. Genealogical. Sometimes people come up with that it was in a past life.
Meaning, like, so a lot of people. Is there a past life? I don't know. I can't. I can't tell you or not. Only thing I know is that if my client tells me that's where it happens, that's where we're going to take it. I don't judge. I just do the work. Right. So if it's a past life for them, it's okay. It's not a big. Is it real or not? I don't know. If I release the negative energy and they move forward and they're the best, better for it. I've done my job. Or normally it happens between 0 and 7, usually around 2 or 3. Sometimes people.
People don't.
In the book of Biology of beliefs by Dr. Bruce Lipton, he talks about the fact that sometimes it does happen in the womb.
The mother transfers energy to the child and the child picks up on it. And so that's kind of where we start. We kind of figure out where it started based on where they feel like it started. And then that's when. That's when we figure out what other learnings we can learn from that event.
[00:32:07] Speaker B: Okay. Wow. Wow.
Going to your. Your podcast, the Curtis McCollum show, have you seen any recurring themes between those who grow and those who plateau?
[00:32:25] Speaker A: The ones who grow, usually they hit a spot and then. But they continue to move forward. Meaning like, like you said before, they acknowledge something is happening and they either allow it to be released and they continue to move forward. They have a persistence about themselves, that bar none. I mean, it's like there's no joke and determination and persistence, meaning these guys and I've talked to some great entrepreneurs, and most of them start out just like we do. They put their pants on the same way we put their pants on the dress, whatever you want to call it. But what they do different is that their mindset is different, meaning that they.
But they. And then, then at the same time, and if there, there is a problem, like you said, they acknowledge it and kind of move forward from it and, and, and continue to move forward.
[00:33:17] Speaker B: It sounds like they're pragmatic. So like this, it is what it is. Now let's deal with what it is and let's move on.
[00:33:23] Speaker A: Let's keep moving. Yes.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Yeah. We don't deal with what we wish it were.
Well, it's been great talking to you today. You're fascinating.
One thing that we always do when we wrap up the show is our mission is to help people aspire to a better life. So the one question I always ask all my guests is who is someone who has helped you aspire to a better life?
[00:33:46] Speaker A: That's a great question.
I would probably say my favorite author is Napoleon Hill and Think and Grow Rich. I went back about it two years ago. I feel like I'm from Mississippi so time is not a factor.
But I went back and I looked at his 13 principles and I looked at my legit mindset and how he actually operates in my and in my practice almost mirrors some of the things that he talked about in his book. So I'll probably say Napoleon Hill and Think and Grow Rich is. It's the foundation for what I do. He talked about the subconscious mind. He talks about the ghost of fear and he talks about a lot of those things and being persistent and being all of those things that I talk about and mindset kind of that's what he talked about. So I'll probably say Napoleon Hill.
[00:34:41] Speaker B: Wonderful. Wonderful to hear that. Well, again, thank you so much. I know we had to postpone this for a week because I got sick last week.
Thank you for that accommodation for me there.
Thanks for coming on again. It's been fascinating.
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